#metabrainz

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      • aerozol
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      • aerozol
        That's a great one!!
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      • chinmay
        That's fun!
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      • lucifer
        yvanzo: hi! a few more questions on sir reindex timings, do you remember how long does indexing url and release group take on master and v3.0.1?
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      • aerozol
        mayhem: this is like 3 years old, but you and MB get a nice shout out from Matthew Hawn at 21:30: https://mtflabs.net/podcast030/
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      • aerozol
        Oh he’s on our board haha. Still nice though!
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      • atj
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      • mayhem
        moooin!
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      • mayhem
        aerozol: that receipt is great!
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      • mayhem
        lucifer: I worked out some things last night that we keep forgetting....
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      • aerozol
        Ooh the '87 one is cool too
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      • aerozol
        Wish I'd come up with the receipt. Maybe I can come up with it later 😂
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      • mayhem
        MTF has great design sense in general, but sticking matthew in bright light and taking his picture up close? WHY???
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      • aerozol
        #moody
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      • mayhem
        #toodumbtounderstandlightingbasics
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      • mayhem
        this happened when I gave a talk for them too.
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      • CatQuest
        huh that recipt thing is kinda fun
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      • CatQuest
        :D
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      • mayhem
        aerozol: if you reinvent the ticketbot, please use a background image that shows some paper grain.
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      • mayhem
        the crinkles are a great idea, but on perfect white background, it falls a bit short.
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      • CatQuest
        imagine it with an askii sort of lb logo infront
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      • aerozol
        Ooh that's cool. Unfortunately I don't know if we can copy that one without it being bloody obvious
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      • CatQuest
        oh! what about warez info file looking?
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      • CatQuest
        you know those with the big ascii logo an "we blah blah an then something similar to this recipt but bodging the titles toexklude some letters, make some letters int onumbers (l33t) and z's instead of s's..
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      • mayhem
        or maybe we contact them and see if they are interested in making an LB version.
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      • atj
        you can always ask them if it's ok
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      • CatQuest
        just an idea i had
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      • aerozol
        I still reckon look at opening up the 'explore' section, the community out there is doing so much
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      • aerozol
        Endless cool things
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      • aerozol
        Warez one is cool too. Someone has to make a little song that plays!
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      • CatQuest
        oh. also an anecdote about date in hover on: I had some releases a couple days ago, was adding them, it said "released 6 years ago" etc.. "ugh thought I, I have to idk, math or something, and when going to copy the text / seeing if there ewas any button or something, then, and only then discovering that there was a hover with the actual date (badly done.)
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      • CatQuest
        then? I had to remember the date (repeating the numbers to myself (17, 08, 09)), as I entered them into mb.
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      • CatQuest
        in conclusion ,it would have been 30 times easier if I could have just copied a line of text to pasteinto mb, or even just seend a date and write it in mb while looking
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      • CatQuest
        aerozol: yea? you liked my warez idea? :D
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      • aerozol
        Yeah cool as
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      • CatQuest
        :D
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      • CatQuest
        oh. lol what about the obvious? superman scroling text
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      • aerozol
        I could mock these up all day (but I won't cause I've already spent a lot of time on that)
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      • CatQuest
        superman/starwars/
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      • CatQuest
        iirc they both had that
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      • CatQuest
        aaw
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      • aerozol
        When we do video ones that would be cool
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      • CatQuest
        nah. just gif
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      • aerozol
        Ok, I gotta go to bed, and this is very distracting/fun hah. Have a great day all!
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      • CatQuest
        or just a still with the 10 ones there like a page
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      • CatQuest
        heh :D i forgot it's late there
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      • CatQuest
        happy november to you
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      • mayhem
        natta aerozol
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      • CatQuest
        it's already the 1s right? it'll be the 2 soon for you
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      • lucifer
        mayhem: oh. which things?
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      • mayhem
        a classic machine learning mistake -- it didn't trigger for me because what we're doing doesn't quite strike me as machine learning, but I guess it does. We never limited the input from any one user.
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      • mayhem
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      • mayhem
        Daft Punk seed, Rammstein on track 3.
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      • mayhem
        I bet there is one person who has a playlist with metal and daft punk and that runs on repeat and we can see it here.
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      • mayhem
        so, I wish for two things:
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      • mayhem
        1. Limit each user to X data points for any given entity-entity pair. I am guessing X should be low, like 3 or 5.
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      • chinmay
        lucifer: there's a deprecation warning for frontend tests.. it's time for `actions/checkout@v3` https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/twpLIlV…
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      • mayhem
        2. (this might be tricky) is to get a top X users and their individual listen counts that contribute to each entity-entity pair.
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      • mayhem
        so for 2, we would see: MBID0, MBID1, score, score_hist: {'user1": 1, "user2":76, "user3": 4 }
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      • mayhem
        so that we can see which users contribute to the questionable rec.
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      • mayhem
        this would seriously balloon the dataset, I totally get that.
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      • mayhem
        but if we can implement this, we should delete all data sets and then re-run something like session_based_days_730_session_400_threshold_5_limit_200 which clearly exhibits the problem.
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      • mayhem
        BUT, realistically speaking, we may not need to do #2 if #1 drastically improves the results.
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      • lucifer
        mayhem: for 2, yeah even if you get the top contributor for each pair, it'll be ~10M rows easily. will add 1. we do this for sitewide stats already, so that 1 user's listens do not dominate the entire site's artist/release/recording stats.
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      • mayhem
        exactly, agreed 100%.
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      • mayhem
        so, lets start with the #1 and then removing matches from the same artist credit.
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      • lucifer
        chinmay: sure sounds good to update those actions.
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      • mayhem
        then start over and nuke all the datasets and I'll start generating new ones.
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      • mayhem
        and I will actually code the troi patch to compare the matches against spotify audio features so I can run automated tests against data sets.
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      • lucifer
        sounds good
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      • CatQuest
        boo that also seems like recomendations will all be too "narrow" too dough.. :/
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      • CatQuest
        dough?
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      • CatQuest
        though
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      • CatQuest
        ∂ough
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      • CatQuest
        damn where is that thorn whench you need it
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      • Freso
        Compose key + t + h → þ
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      • Freso
        Compose key + T + H → Þ
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      • Freso
        Compose key is great 🥰
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      • atj
        galactic0205: best to repeat your question in this channel as it is where the developers hang out
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      • galactic0205
        Hey everyone this is Prajwal Uday from Bangalore, India.
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      • galactic0205
        as a brief introduction of myself, I work on ML and NLP-related projects and have been researching algorithms and topics based on them.
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      • galactic0205
        So my query is, are there any projects related to Machine Learning to which I can contribute to? I'll be grateful if someone helps me out.
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      • galactic0205
        Thank you.
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      • mayhem
        hi galactic0205
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      • mayhem
        we don't do much NLP stuff, but we do do some machine learning using Spark and some homegrown stuff that may or may not qualify for "machine learning"
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      • mayhem
        (we're using machine learning concepts, but only SQL, so can it be machine learning? lol)
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      • atj
        I think Postgres will achieve sentience in a few years
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      • galactic0205
        oh that's alright
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      • mayhem
        we're currently engaging in a project where were are trying to use the stream of listens for a user and trying to derive how individual recordings might relate to each other.
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      • mayhem
        atj: in lucifer's hands, it will.
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      • mayhem
        galactic0205: there is a project that I would like someone to do. its a nice and isolated project that doesn't depend on a lot of stuff.
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      • mayhem
        namely, inferring genres.
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      • galactic0205
        that sounds great
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      • mayhem
        MusicBrainz has a few million genres. but we have 24M or so tracks.
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      • mayhem
        so the genre coverage is really not very good at all. not good enough to use for recommendations.